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Can God Help Me? I’m an Alcoholic!

Can God Help Me? I’m an Alcoholic!

By Dick B.
© 2012 Anonymous. All rights reserved.

Let’s Keep it Simple, and see what God has to say—Looking in the King James Version of the Bible where early AAs looked for answers

Believe that God is and rewards those who seek Him: (Hebrews 11:6—“But without faith, it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”)

He will heal all that obey His commandments: (Exodus 15:26—[the LORD] . . said, If thou wilt diligently hearken to the voice of the LORD thy God, and wilt do that which is right in his sight, and wilt give ear to his commandments, and keep all his statutes, I will put none of these diseases upon thee, which I have brought upon the Egyptians: for I am the LORD that healeth thee.”). (Psalm 103:2-3—“Bless the LORD, O my soul, and forget not all his benefits: Who forgiveth all thine iniquities; who healeth all thy diseases”).

God’s commandments and love summarized: (1) 1 Timothy 2:3-4—“For this is good and acceptable inthe sight of God our Saviour. Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.” (2)John 3:16-17—“For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.” (3) Matthew 22:36-40—Master, which is the great commandment in the law. Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” (4) 1 John 5:3—“For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.”

Ask according to His will: (1) 1 John 5:14-15—“And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.” (2) 1 Samuel 3:10—“And the LORD came, and stood and called as at other times, Samuel, Samuel. Then Samuel answered, Speak; for the servant heareth.” (3) Acts 22:8, 10—“And I [Paul] answered, Who art thou , Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth whom thou persecuted. . . . And I said, What shall I do Lord?” (4) John 14:13—“And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.” (5) John 15:16—“. . . that whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.”

Call out, as one of His children, asking for deliverance in accordance with His promises: (1)Psalm 92:14-16—“Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name. He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him; I will deliver him, and honor him. With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.” (2) Psalm 55:16-17—“As for me, I will call upon God; and the LORD shall save me. Evening, and morning, and at noon will I pray and cry aloud: and he shall hear my voice.” (3) Psalm 107:19-20—“Then they cry unto the LORD in their troubles, and he saveth them out of their distresses. He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.”

The foregoing words apply to all His kids in trouble who ask, obey, and believe

Suppose these are your problems: Let’s suppose that alcoholism, addictions, and life-controlling problems really have you licked. You are dealing with staying sober; enduring temptation; enduring withdrawal, depression, and damage to your brain and body; facing legal, criminal, tax, economic, and domestic difficulties; dealing with the shakes, shivers, anxieties, and fears; residing, in a jail or a prison or homelessness; experiencing loneliness, despair, financial despair; and confronted with enormous medical and mental hurdles.

Perhaps you approach help from God with unbelief and hesitation: Is there a way out? Take a look at Genesis and Luke:

Noah: Noah “was a just man and perfect in his generations and Noah walked with God. . . . and Noah did according to all that the LORD commanded him. . . . And God remembered Noah and every living thing, and all the cattle that was with him in the ark: and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters asswaged. . . . And God blessed Noah and his sons” (Genesis 9:1) Impossible? Not for God.

Abraham: Abraham wanted a child by his wife Sara when he was 99 years old and Sarah was 90 and barren. The :LORD appeared to him and said, I am Almighty God: walk before me, and be thou perfect. When push came to shove, both Abraham and Sarah laughed at the prospect of having a son. God’s answer? “ Is anything to hard for the LORD?” (Genesis 18:14). Abraham was tempted but obeyed God; Sarah had the son; and God blessed Abraham and greatly multiplied his family. Impossible? Not for God

Mary-mother of Jesus: The angel appeared to the virgin Mary and told her that she would conceive a child in her womb and bring forth a son and call his name Jesus. Mary asked how this was possible since “I know not a man.” The angel told her that the Holy Ghost would come upon her and that the power of the Highest would overcome her. Mary agreed to be the handmade of the Lord and said “be it unto me according to thy word.” Impossible? The angel told Mary: “For with God nothing shall be impossible.” (Luke 1:37). And she gave birth to the son of God.

The Bible is filled with accounts of seemingly impossible miracles, healings, deliverances. They attest that with God nothing is impossible for God. And thousands of us who were “licked” by alcoholism, entrusted our lives to God’s care and found truly that there was a way out of all the difficulties and that there certainly was nothing beyond the power and love and grace of the Creator. That was the experience of A.A. cofounder Dr. Bob who aid at the end of his personal story: “Your Heavenly Father will never let you down.!”

A New Way Out offers an opportunity to those willing to seek it. It suggests that many would like to know that those who become a child of God, walk in fellowship with the Father and His son and other believers, can persistently ask God in the name of His son for God’s directions as to where to go, what to do, and whom to help in such a way that God Himself is obeyed, served, and glorified. It’s a choice. Anyone who suffers and/or wants to help the still suffering can choose to seek God. Can God help? Well He helped me, and the Good Book says He can and will help those who seek Him.

Must you leave your church, your Bible fellowship, your Christian recovery group, your A.A., N.A., Al-Anon or other 12 Step fellowship, or your support group just to seek and obtain God’s help? Not if you believe the Good Book and not if you follow directions. And not if you follow the path the early AAs followed in Akron while you are doing it. Our history and our books give you all the accurate information: http://www.dickb.com/titles.shtml.

Gloria Deo

dickb@dickb.com

A.A. Conference-approved Literature A Foundation for Applying Old School A.A. Today

The Case for A.A. Meetings Providing History From Conference-approved Literature
Old School A.A. First Century Christianity Recovery Approaches
Dick B. and Ken B.
Copyright 2012 Anonymous. All rights reserved
There are two strong bases for bringing these to the attention of Christian Recovery Leaders in a simple, fairly brief, concrete form. They are:
1. The Resemblance of effective early A.A. to 1st Century Christianity
All the objective observers (Five Rockefeller people in all; the early Oxford Group Fellowship and Shoemaker; and Dr. Bob’s Christian Fellowship name for Akron) make it clear they felt they were renewing the elements of First Century. This meant Christianity as set forth in Acts 2 and 4. It also meant these Christian elements would produce children of God who were able to walk by the spirit in complete health and recovery from alcoholism.
2. The Elements of Conference-approved literature that fully support those who
wish to believe, use, and practice old school A.A. in today’s recovery fellowships.
The seven-point program and 16 practices of early A.A. embodied a modern-day application of First Century Christianity in the program Bill and Bob developed in the Akron A.A. program of 1935.
If you take those points as well as the 28 Oxford Group principles that Bill and Shoemaker worked out for the 1939 program, you can use A.A. General Service Conference-approved literature to show the original intent of both Akron and the original Big Book to rely on God for recovery.
Also, if possible, to have that happen through a born-again, conversion, and new birth perhaps accompanied by the “vital religious experience” of the type William James, Carl Jung, Rev. Samuel Shoemaker, and Dr. William Silkworth believed would bring about necessary relationship with God through Jesus Christ.
The Proposed Four, Brief, Instructive Classes That Will Train 12 Steppers in How to
Learn, Utilize, and Apply Old School A.A. in Today’s 12 Step Fellowships.

1. The biblical origins of Christian recovery that can be found in: (a) Old Testament- “I am the LORD that healeth thee;” (b) Jesus taught the Word
Daily in the Temple; (c) The Apostles received the gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 1 and 2); Peter and John healed the lame man in the name of Jesus Christ (Acts 3) (d) The Apostles fellowshipped together, brought people to Christ, prayed and heard the Word together, broke bread together, healed, and saved thousands.
2. The Christian conversion and healing successes beginning in the 1850’s with (a) Great evangelists like Moody, Meyer, and Sunday. (b) Young Men’s Christian Association brethren. (c) Jerry McAuley and the Water Street Rescue Mission (d) the Salvation Army whose Begbie book was so popular in early A.A. (e) The Young People’s Society of Christian Endeavor which laid out most of the First Century practices that Dr. Bob learned and which became so much a part of the early Akron A.A. (f) The earlier Oxford Group life-changing principles that became embedded in the Big Book and actually sobered up early Oxford Group people.
3. (a) The Christian upbringing of the co-founders Bob and Bill; (b) the way the first
three Christian AAs got sober by simply turning to God; (c) the founding of A.A
(d) The 7 point early Akron A.A. Christian Fellowship program,
4. (a) The 16 practices the early Christian AAs  followed, the 75 to 93% success they had.(b) Present-day Conference-approved materials on spiritual (c) experience, finding God, and that “God could and would if he were sought;” and the early Big Book manuscript and stories that make the Christian and biblical origins of the 1939 program explicitly and therefore applicable for those today who want God’s help.

The "Christian Spring" in Christian Recovery This Year

International Christian Recovery Coalition has planned a "Christian Spring" in Christian Recovery and in the Christian Recovery Movement for 2012.

The Purpose: To bring the roots of Christian recovery to the attention of Christians, Christian leaders, Christian recovery leaders and workers, Christians in recovery, and all who want God's help in conquering alcoholism, addiction, and the disasters which accompany them in society and in individuals. Available to all--whatever their present approach or program.

The Plan:

Geographically, we hope to hold meetings with NAs in Southern Califorenia, with AAs in Southern California, with both in Northern California and with all in Florida.

The New Approaches:

We want folks to know that there is nothing new about the role that God,. His Son Jesus Christ, and the Bible have played in helping drunks and addicts. This is a piece of history that should be at the fore of any program that wants to bring recovery. Healing was clear in the Old Testmanet. Healing was clear in the ministry of Jesus. Healing was clear among the First Century Christians. Healing of alcoholics and addicts was widespread and effective in the 1850's among the great evangelists, the rescue missions, the Young Men's Christian Association personal work folks, the Salvation Army, the Young People's Society of Christian Endeavor, and even the earliest Oxford Group-Shoemaker outreach. It was present among the first three AAs. AND IT WAS CERTAINLY PRESENT IN EARLY AKRON A.A.'S CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP.

If you read Acts Chapters Two and Four, you will see it all centered on DAILY fellowship, prayer, Bible study, healing, conversion, and breaking bread together.

We hope to see leaders rise up in counseling, intervention, treatment, 12 Step fellowships, sober living, Christian recovery fellowships, and among churches and clergy and psychologists. They can put God squarely in the middle of the recovery arena. They can do it now. They can do it in their offices, their programs, their fellowships, their living facilities, their Christian recovery work, and their churrches.

We will have several powerful Christian speakers from across the U.S. who can show you how they are doing this now. We will have some wonderful panels who present the material on radio, TV, and film. We will have some effective, simple, teaching sessions to train the trainers in how First Century Christianity touched recovery in the 1930's and can touch it today.

We will show how, for example, "A.A. General Service Conference-approved literature" can be the strongest tool for showing how 12 Step recovery really began with reliance on God.

You and your fellowship, your group, your program, your efforts, and your churches and conferences can join us right now.

God Bless, Dick B., Executive Director. www.dickb.com; www.ChristianRecoveryCoalition.com.

Our new, expanded The Dick B. Christian Recovery Guide, 4th ed., will soon be ready for those who want an updated approach to all the foregoing.

Who Authored DR. BOB and the Good Oldtimers

Who Authored Dr. Bob and the Good Oldtimers?

By Dick B.

© 2012 Anonymous. All rights reserved

In case after case, people have played “Ring around the Rosie” with A.A. history without ever doing the research necessary and the inspection necessary to get the real answers.

The A.A. General Service Conference-approved book, DR. BOB and the Good Oldtimers (New York: Alcoholics Anonymous World Services, Inc., 1980), was published after extensive investigation, some repeat trips, and the not-unusual alteration of meaning by some A.A. editor.

Niles Peebles was engaged to write the biography. Nell Wing phoned Clarence Snyder in Florida and told him that the people in New York simply didn't know the old-timers and that Clarence did. She asked for his help and sent Niles down to interview him. Niles did so, and on how many other occasions or by what means of communication he gained information from Clarence, I do not know. I do know that Grace Snyder informed me of the foregoing details. I also know that Mitchell K. took almost all of the Clarence Snyder papers from Grace Snyder, promising to return them after Mitchell completed work on a biography of Clarence Snyder. Years went by. The papers were never returned to Grace. And I have her affidavit to that effect.

There are several documents in Clarence's handwriting in which he proposed to write such a history; but when DR. BOB and the Good Oldtimers finally came out, Clarence was satisfied with the results and wound up passing out free copies to those who attended the spiritual retreats he founded and continued. Whether the actual papers in Clarence's possession would have added to the story of how DR. BOB and the Good Oldtimers was written and to what extent Niles collaborated, I do not know.

I do know that Peebles visited Dr. Bob's son in Nocona, Texas, and wished to interview him on the matter. Smitty asked him if he was going to write anything about his mother (Anne Ripley Smith). Peebles said, "No." Smitty replied that he therefore was not going to tell him a "damn thing." Smitty phoned his sister Sue and asked her to do likewise, which she also promised to do. A long time later, Peebles returned to Smitty, said he would write about Dr. Bob's wife, and an interview was granted.

Now, who else contributed? Dennis Cassidy, a veteran A.A. historian, left me a printer's manuscript of DR. BOB and the Good Oldtimers. It contains the full names of the people interviewed. It contains an inscription indicating the book was written by Peebles. But it also contains other written changes indicating that at least Barry Leach was telling Peebles certain things about the draft. I have that manuscript and have very much tried to have it acquired and donated to "The Dr. Bob Core Library" at North Congregational Church in St. Johnsbury, Vermont--where Bob was born and raised, and where he received his extensive biblical training as a youngster.

This valuable piece needs to be acquired and made public. One A.A. veteran had plans to acquire it but has fallen short of the needed funds. And it sits in limbo.

Just as with The Book That Started It All: The Original Working Manuscript of Alcoholics Anonymous (Center City, Minn.: Hazelden, 2010) and questions it left unanswered about the first edition of the Big Book, the “printer's manuscript” of DR. BOB and the Good Oldtimers may not tell the whole story about Dr. Bob. But it can provide lots of information still being garbled by those writers and historians who have never seen the manuscript, the names, the changes, and how the manuscript stands in relation to book ultimately published by A.A. in 1980.

One thing is sure. There are still people on at least one history site trying to answer questions about DR. BOB and the Good Oldtimers without the information about it contained in the “printer’s manuscript” of that book. As a result, they speculate that Peebles got his information in Akron. But many facts—as opposed to guesses—are available within the covers of the “printers manuscript.”

For those devoted to unearthing all the principles and practices of the "old school" A.A. program and applying them in A.A. today, there is no better starting place than the important DR. BOB and the Good Oldtimers manuscript given to me by Dennis Cassidy--who was also a good friend of Sue Smith Windows, of Ray and Ginny G. of Ohio (Ray being the long-time archivist at Dr. Bob's Home), and of Dr. Bob's son Smitty and his wife Betty.

Gloria Deo

Biblical Perspective of the 12 Steps - A New Study in North Hollywood

Biblical Perspective of 12 Steps - A Product of "Old School" A.A. Tallks

On Monday, January 9, 2012, we were privileged to speak to a "rockin" meeting of The Hiding Place Fellowship in North Hollywood. The huge bingo room of the Cri-Help Facility was packed. We personally met folks from Narcotics Anonymous, Alcoholics Anonymou, and the Christian community who had come to hear our talks on the biblical origins of the Christian Recvovery Movement and a highlight of the exact places in the Bible from which 12 Step concepts emerged.

Mario Zamorano has been leading a book by book Bible study among a growing number of people, both seasoned clean and sober people, but also newcomers, Christians in recovery, and Christian leaders, and others seeking God's help in their recovery efforts.

We just received notice of how this biblical perspective of the 12 Steps has taken off since our kickoff talk. Here is the announcement just being published: And we think others such as the many James Club, Big Book/Bible Study, and A.A. History Study Groups may profitably contact the leaders of The Hiding Place Fellowship for information, suggestions, and useful helps in their Bible roots of A.A. studies.

A note from The Hiding Place Fellowship

Please pass this on....................

This Monday we will be back at the Bingo Hall for week two of...A biblical perspective of the 12 steps. We Start at 7:00 pm.

Come hear the 2nd step in its entirety as defined in
the Bible. This will be very informative and can only enhance your
recovery or daily walk!

For more info or if you need transportation please call 562) 266-3024.

Hope to see you there.

God bless.

A.A. History and Christ - Another Witness to Bill W.'s acceptance of Jesus as Lord and Savior

The greatest historical treasure we have discovered as to A.A. History and 2012 just came to light.

During our January, 2012 series of talks, visits and personal meetings in Southern California, we spent precious time with Pastor Frank Geoy, Jr. on the subject of Bill Wilson's acceptance of Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior at the altar at Calvary Mission in New York in early December, 1935.

Now we have more confirming details.

Recall the series of events that preceded Bill's answsering the altar call at Calvary Mission.

First, Dr. William D. Silkworth had told Bill that if he didn't quit drinking, he would die or go insane. But he also told Biill that the Great Physician Jesus Christ could cure him of his alcoholism. The details are covered and documented in Bill's autobiography ("Bill W., M y First 40 Years), and in Dale Mitchel's biography of Dr. Silkwortth. Both recenttly published by Hazelden.

Then came Ebby Thacher. Ebby had long been a drunken friend of Bill's. But Ebby had been to the altar at Calvary Mission just before his famous visit with Bill in Bill's home. Ebby told Bill he had been staying at CalvalryMission, had "got religion," had been to the altar and gave his life to Christ; and Bill could not only see that Ebby was sober, but also born again.

Bill then went to Shoemaker's church to hear Ebby''s testimony and be sure Ebby wes telling it straight. This convinced Bill that maybe the Great Physician could help him too if he went to the Mission and did as Ebby had done.

Bill then went to Calvary Mission. The services included testimony, the phrase "Jesus Saves," and Bible reading and prayer by the leaders. Then came the altar call. And Bill went forward and knelt in prayer.

We just learned of another witness to Bill's ensuing acceptance of Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. First, Mrs. Samuel M. Shoemaker told me on the phone that she was present when Bill made his decision for Jesus Christ, Second, years later, in a speech by Lois Wilson, recorded in Texas, Bill's wife said that Bill had really and with all sincereity handed his life over to Jesus Christ. To cap it off, Bill wrote in his own biography "For sure I'd been born again." He also wrote his brother in law that he had "got religion."

Then came the delightful surprise we had in our interview with Pastor Frank. Frank told us that Ben Armstrong (President of the National Religious Broadcasters for 22 years) had been an intern of Sam Shoemaker's at Calvary Church. Ben Armstrong declared that he was present when Bill accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior at Calvary Mission

To cap it off, A.A.'s General Services Conference-approved 4th edition of the Big Book Alcoholics Anonymous states in Bill's own words on page 191: " Henrietta, the Lord has been so wonderful to me curing me of this terrible disease that I just want to keep talking about it and telling people."


And now we know the fact of Bill's new birth at Calvary Mission in New York--confirmed by Rev. Samuel Shoemaker's wife (Shoemaker being Rector ov Calvary Church), Bill's wife Lolis, and Ben Armstrong of National Religious Broadcasters

January 18, 2012, Dick B., Writer, Historian, Retired attorney, Bible student and an active recovered A.A. member with over 25 years of continuous sobriety. Author of 42 books and over 800 articles on A.A. History.

A Great Close to Our Southern California Meetings

A Great Close to Our Southern California Meetings

Dick B.

© 2012 Anonymous. All rights reserved

Ken and I are back in Maui and excited over the many meetings we had in Southern California from LAX, Redondo Beach, North Hollywood, Costa Mesa, Irvine, Santa Ana, to three hotels – Best Western, Wyndham, and Marriott in the area. The trip was made possible by air fare contribution of Christian friend Freda M.; hotel contribution of David Powers of Rock Recovery Ministries and Soledad House in San Diego; help with trip expenses from Dr. Bernstein’s Cri-Help in North Hollywood and it’s the Hiding Place Bible study group led by Mario Zamorano; and transportation to and fro by Christian friend Freda M., Danny Simmons of Sons of Thunder, Gary Martin of Mariners Church, Tim and Kelli White of Ex-Cons for Christ, Recovered Christian believer Danny Whitmore and his lovely wife Cate,  Chuck and Gary, both of NA, and Chaplain Gene Haag of Oregon—Gene about to celebrate his 50^th NA birthday/

The last days of the trip saw the firming up of our large Conference in the Disneyland Area in May (thanks to Pastor Jerry Liversage), a large conference in Florida in May and/or November (thanks to efforts of Russell Spatz, Miami attorney), and strong support for International Christian Recovery Coalition’s two additional efforts: (1) Our new ChristianRecoveryRadio.com (thanks to Nikole Wood) (2) Training the Trainers in Applying Old School A.A. Today (thanks to Gary Martin of Mariners Church, Pastor Joe Furey of His Place Church, Pastor Frank McGeoy, Jr. of Irvine, Roger McDiarmid of our Speakers Bureau, and Tim and Kelli White of Ex-Cons for Christ.

We attended meetings where we received warm, supportive input from Director of Recovery L.V. Hanson (Mariners Church, Irvine); attorney Brian Casserly, Member of Mariners Church; and Cole Beshore, M.A., Community Pastor, Mariners Church. And from long-time friend Dale Ryan, Ph.D., Associate Professor of Recovery Ministry and Director of the Institute for Recovery Ministry, School of Theology, Fuller Seminary.

Rob Wolf, long-time recovered Christian believer flew in from Utah to meet with us regarding his possible role in our work. We met with Terry LaDow, MS, BCPCC, CADC II, New Perspectives; and the panelists and producers of the community access television program—Pastor Jerry Liversage, Pastor and Founder Mike Belzman, Ph.D., Association of Christian Alcohol and Drug Counselors, Institute; Robert Tucker, Ph.D., President of New Life Spirit Recovery, Inc., at Huntington Beach, Ken, myself, and the producing squad led by Randy Liversage.

It was a heavy, wonderful, and fruitful trip and certainly a major part of the mighty rushing wind of the Christian Recovery Movement now in progress and recognizing the role that God, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Bible have long played in the origins, history, founding, original Christian Fellowship program of A.A. in Akron, and its successes. And can play today.

And Now for the Many Who Became Participants of International Christian Recovery Coalition in Just the Last ten days

Welcome to each of the following participants who are now listed as participants in the International Christian Recovery Coalition:

Terry LaDow, MS, BCPCC, CADC II

New Perspectives

714.731.6617

Teach2think@gmail.com

Rob Wolf, of Utah

rwolf@ibnads.com

Cell: 1-801-671-0663

Mike Stiles, Producer, Public Access Television, Southern California Region, (714) 533-0181

Randy Liversage, Producer/Director, Transformed Productions, (714) 393-5493, Email: rjliversage@aol.com”

Pastor Frank J. McGeoy, Jr., Gracious Giver Church, 12 Step Recovery Church, 1053 Granville Dr., Newport Beach, CA 92660, Cell: (949) 689-4593, Email: FrankMcGeoy@att.net – who also provides a large sober living facility.

Chaplain Gene J. Haag, Oregon Department of Corrections, Connecting Point Ministries, 700 Nobility Drive, Medford, OR 97501, Ofc.: (541) 773-1985; Cell: (541) 951-3200, Email: gjhaag@hotmail.com

Wm. (Gary) Martin, Recovered believer, Awesome Bail Bonds, www.AwesomeBailBonds.com, Bail by phone, Office: (888) 877-BAIL (2245), Cell: (949) 872-6504, Insurance License 1841543

Larry McClintick EMC USN (ret), long recovered believer,850 W.Country Lane,Collinsville,IL 62234,618-344-7907; juanita@mcclintick.org

God Bless, Dick B., dickb@dickb.com; http://www.dickb.com/; January 15, 2012